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    Would it ever be possible for anyone here to vote for HRC?

    If yes, please explain and if no please explain.

    For me, there's just no chance. Going back to the 2008 campaign, I remember the racist dog whistle attacks on Obama and the win at all costs style of campaigning they used and that was it for me. She wouldn't have had my vote then either. Since then she's only proven to be everything that I'm against and is so with great pride. She's a total fraud and charlatan and I can't really think of anything good to say about either of the Clintons.

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    Do pigs fly? Well when they do ask me again, till than never

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    Noooo


    I am a grandma...I can not get over Bill flying with Jefrey Epstein 26 times on His plane nicknamed Lolita Express to Orgy Island when Jefrey was sex trafficking little girls as young as 10 years old and on 5 of these flights verified by Flight Manifests, Bill Clinton ditched his Secret Service and evidently never filled out the mandatory paper work to stand down his SService people.

    But the most important reason is that Hillary put our National Security at risk with her irresponsible behavior with her server..and put our CIA clandestine agents and their assets at risk to destroy their missions of protecting all of our safety..for her greed and presidential ambitions.

    These people are very sick people, and I want them nowhere near my a White House ever again.

    Hillary is a bold faced liar and only gives a shit about her own ambitions ...she doesn't give a rats ass about Americans and the plight of the American Mddle Class.
    I have no doubt she stole the Primary.. I Do not support cheaters! And I Never will!!

    And those are a mere fraction of the reasons I never ever want to see she or Bill ever to be close to our WH again!!

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    Let's say it came down to her vs. Trump which it probably won't. Like Bernie says a lot can happen in politics in that time. But I would happily crawl over glass to vote for Trump if I was the deciding vote.

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    No, I would never vote for Hillary. She's exactly the last person I'd vote for, for two reasons. First, to spite the Hillbots. Second and most importantly, the cycle of voting for the lesser evil needs to be broken and you can't do that by doing the same thing over and over again.

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    No, I won't vote for her. In addition to the points others have already made, I'll add this: I have family members in the military. I don't think she cares whether they live or die, although I'm sure she would go to meet every flight carrying coffins, and I'm sure she would say pretty words.

    Her friend Henry Kissinger described the people who serve in the military as poor, dumb, animals that are pawns in diplomacy.

    For Clinton, going to war is her way of proving she's rough and tough and able to fight with the best of them. Not that she actually fights--she has people to do that.

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    I forgot to mention that she hasn't seen a war she couldn't get behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flygirl View Post
    I am a grandma...I can not get over Bill flying with Jefrey Epstein 26 times on His plane nicknamed Lolita Express to Orgy Island when Jefrey was sex trafficking little girls as young as 10 years old and on 5 of these flights verified by Flight Manifests, Bill Clinton ditched his Secret Service and evidently never filled out the mandatory paper work to stand down his SService people.
    Right? How creepy and criminal is that?

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    No. I'd never vote for her. I despise her and her sleazy husband.

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    No. There are many reasons why I would never vote for her but just two reasons will suffice: 1) Her extreme interest in initiating and perpetuating war (and the hells on earth she has already worked to create), and 2) Her absolute commitment to globalist "free trade" deals which result in the destruction of national sovereignty. I'm scared pretty crapless about global corporate totalitarianism.

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    Never. Ever. Ever. Ad infinitum.

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    Ha ha! That's how I feel too. She (and her husband) must be kept out of the White House! Anything terrible that resulted from a Trump presidency could be fixed. Many of the things the Clintons would accomplish could not be reversed (utter destruction of more sovereign nations in the world and "free trade" deals that take power away from national governments).

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    Absofuckinglutely NO.

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    Hell no. Never. She's dishonest. She's run a dishonest campaign. They are still counting votes in California three fucking weeks after the primary. I have voted in every primary and general election in California since 1972 and there has never been this kind of a fuck-up in this state -- until this time when a Bernie victory would have made Clinton damaged goods going into the convention. And it was all so transparent. She just doesn't give a fuck what anyone thinks. She'll lie, cheat, and steal her way into the White House. Of course she's also running in the wrong party. Fracking? Horrific trade deals? Cozying up to Wall Street criminals? More wars? Shit, if I wanted to vote for that crap, I'd vote for someone honest enough to admit they are a Republican. Truly horrific that the Democratic Party and Republican Party have become two sides of the same corrupt 1% coin, with the puppetmasters at the DNC paying lip service to social issues in order to put on a veneer of respectability. It's all bullshit.

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    Never..nope..not a chance

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    Ever? Maybe if she ran against Hitler. Trump is just a buffoon, he's no Hitler.

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    No way in heaven or hell. And this is causing me some personal problems with my dearest friend in the world. But first I would reiterate what others here have said. I don't agree with her on war, fracking, trade, neocon policies, even the company she keeps and money in politics. She has lied and CHEATED repeatedly throughout this entire election. Massive voter suppression and even outright fraud (Az primary) occurred. I'm in California and I voted as a NPP - I don't even know if my vote was counted! The repeated insults by her campaign, her horrible arrogant attitude... she literally makes me nauseous.

    My best friend is upset because she is terrified of Trump. She was shocked this week when I told her that there was no way that I could vote for Hillary. I swore to her that I would never vote for Trump either (and I won't) but because of the reasons that I mentioned above that I won't be voting for Hillary. She also supported Bernie but assumed that I would naturally float over to Hillary now. She says that if Trump wins, she won't talk to me for a day or so. It won't ruin our relationship but she doesn't understand me. She said "well all politicians lie/cheat!" and I told her that wasn't good enough. And I do believe that Hillary goes above/beyond and that the election is actually a fraud. She doesn't understand that part. I think she thinks that I am getting into a conspiracy theory. What can you do? Thankfully there ARE people who now what I'm talking about HERE!! lol..

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    I have this image in my mind of the Clintons setting up their influence-peddling shop right in the Oval Office. Well, perhaps it would be in an office adjoining the Oval Office, but easy to get to if high-rolling customers came by.

    These two people do not seem to know any limits. They're greedy for everything, and the only brakes on their acquisitiveness come from the fear of being indicted.

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    I doubt that even Tony Soprano would vote for Clinton.

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    Fortunately all my friends who support Bernie won't be voting for Hillary either which makes it nice. Two of them, a couple told me that they can't even stand to see her or hear her on TV and feel the same way they felt about Bush.

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    I feel like that too.

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    so you all voting for Trump then?

    so you all want Trump to be the next president?

    so you all think there will not be a WWIII with Trump as president and you want him to lead the U.S. in it?

    so you all want Trump to pick the next 3 Supreme Court members that will be there for life?

    get out the coat hangers young women...you will need them unless you are rich


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    Quote Originally Posted by seemslikeadream View Post
    so you all voting for Trump then?

    so you all want Trump to be the next president?

    so you all think there will not be a WWIII with Trump as president and you want him to lead the U.S. in it?

    so you all want Trump to pick the next 3 Supreme Court members that will be there for life?

    get out the coat hangers young women...you will need them unless you are rich


    A Born-Again Donald Trump? Believe It, Evangelical Leader Says
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    I really hope that is sarcasm.
    I'm not voting for Trump but I am sure as hell not voting for Hillary either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yourout View Post
    I really hope that is sarcasm.
    I'm not voting for Trump but I am sure as hell not voting for Hillary either.
    I would never, EVER vote for Hillary, but if Bernie does not run third party my wife says she will very reluctantly vote for that woman.
    I am trying to convince her that this time voting for the lesser of two evils is not the way to go. But the scare tactics of the Dems is really working on her. And my wife has a gazillion Latino friends frightened of Trump that have my better halfs ear all day at work. Everyone is different in how they feel (and the reasons why) in this fucked up primary season. We have to help educate everyone to the facts about this evil woman who might get the nomination.

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    so what ever happened to the Bernie loyalty here?


    is it "I'm with Bernie but crowd now?"

    I will continue to support Bernie ...I am no fair weather friend

    I will follow his lead....I believe in him and will continue to do so

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    While I will never vote for either one, I'd actually be more likely to vote for the vulgar talking yam than Princess Weathervane. Bad as he is, he's also far less capable of actually accomplishing his aims than she is. Some of her aims are no more palatable than his...and he lacks support from even his own party. Hillary, on the other hand, is the consumate insider snake. Weighing the potential harm, I can't help but find her an even worse choice than Trump.
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    I would have up until the time Bernie was swiftboated on his record during the Civil Rights Movement. First it was the "that isn't Bernie in the picture" meme, then John Lewis standing up (like someone had a gun to his back) saying he never saw Bernie at that time. Right then and there my mind was changed, and it was Bernie or Bust.

    Being from ND, my vote really doesn't matter since I'm sure Trump will carry the state, so I can proudly write in Bernie for president, then pick the D column on down for the rest of the ballot.

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    Oh come on.

    First Woman President! Supreme Court! You Can't Let Trump Win! We Don't Need Your Vote! You'd Better Give It To Us! There's Nowhere Else To Go! You Have No Choice!

    You Know You're With Her! Resign Yourself To It! Heel, Beg and Grovel, Progressive!

    All must


    :sarcasm:

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    the Supreme Court matters if you are a woman....a woman will have nothing if she looses control over her body again



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    I used to think it mattered but I think they could surprise us. That fear just doesn't work anymore, women have many more issues threatening them than just abortion.

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    it's not abortion it is a woman having control over her own body


    and if you did not live through this you have no idea what a nightmare it was for women

    I REMEMBER THE FEAR I WILL NEVER FORGET IT

    http://articles.latimes.com/2014/mar...-back-20140324
    Decades ago, he worked at Harbor General Hospital and what is now L.A. County-USC Medical Center, in their septic abortion wards. Those places, he told me, were full of “the sickest patients,” women who not infrequently died from using coat hangers or knitting needles or radiator flush to induce abortions.

    Those, along with equally dangerous back-alley abortionists, were the choices, unless you were rich enough to get to someplace where abortions were safe and legal, like Sweden, where Mishell worked in 1961 and where he got calls from colleagues at home trying to arrange overseas abortions for their pregnant, prosperous patients.

    In February 1882, The Times published an account of a young L.A. woman who died after trying to end a pregnancy with carbolic acid. One doctor testified that she had come to him for help, but, he said, “I did not propose to put my head in a noose for the $150 that she offered me.
    I know...I helped women who had to go through this...I helped women cross the lines of fascist right wing evangelicals just trying to assert their constitutional right to a safe abortion

    I know because I had to travel to New York from across the country because it was not allowed in my state....NEVER AGAIN for any woman

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    I can't see myself ever voting for Clinton any more than I can see myself voting for Trump.

    Nope . . . nope . . . NopeNopeNope.

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    It's not just about women in this country, it's about the women in nations we are invading losing all their rights and in many cases, their lives due to our neocon/lib Foreign Policies espoused by the Clintons who was never very clear on abortion to begin with.

    So I will never support a candidate, in this case HER, who has done so much harm to women not just in this country, see her support for the horrific Welfare Reform Bill and what it has done to poor women, but around the world. She is a threat to women everywhere.

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    I lived that fucking nightmare. There's a lot more than illegal abortion threatening women and democrats are just fine with some of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seemslikeadream View Post
    so you all voting for Trump then?

    so you all want Trump to be the next president?

    so you all think there will not be a WWIII with Trump as president and you want him to lead the U.S. in it?

    so you all want Trump to pick the next 3 Supreme Court members that will be there for life?

    get out the coat hangers young women...you will need them unless you are rich


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    If the Democrats wanted my vote, and wanted to keep Trump out of the White House, they would have nominated a better candidate and they would NOT have belittled, insulted, and denigrated Bernie supporters for trying to do just that.

    So no, I do not want Trump to be President. But I will not be coerced, shamed, or cajoled into voting for a Neoliberal.

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    NO
    Your explanation is exactly what I would have said, just add...The Clintons' are the biggest frauds I've ever seen and I would never help them to perpetrate that fraud on this country.

    Also, as a Black person 2008 was totally disgusting in the way they used race and to see Black politicians, Lewis and Clyburn especially and voters rally to support them this cycle was awful they acted like 2008 never happened aside from electing President Obama.

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    If yes, please explain and if no please explain.

    For me, there's just no chance. Going back to the 2008 campaign, I remember the racist dog whistle attacks on Obama and the win at all costs style of campaigning they used and that was it for me. She wouldn't have had my vote then either. Since then she's only proven to be everything that I'm against and is so with great pride. She's a total fraud and charlatan and I can't really think of anything good to say about either of the Clintons.

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    I would never vote for Trump. All those reasons are why I support Bernie but if he's not the nominee there is still Jill Stein.

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    Never, even for garbage collector.

    It's the corruption of the Clinton Foundation and her prowar positions that nixed me. I would like a woman candidate, but it has to be an honorable one.

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    Here's my answer - NO

    Um... Let's see.... I didn't mean to be i n s e n s i t i v e there... I have a clear perception of what has been going on in our two party system, and more recently, in our corporatist wing agenda of the Democratic party. It doesn't distinguish HRC from any Republican candidate, which is what happens when unfettered lobbying shapes how either party responds to who put em in office. They're little more than what Col. Kurtz described as errand boys ... sent by grocery clerks ... to collect the bill.

    Hillary is no more than that. So, why should I ever think I'd be in a place where voting for her is any different? I happen to be part of the Sanders led movement to follow through for what is best at this critical juncture. It won't be voting for her.

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    No way!

    I have never in my 62 years, voted for a republican. And I sure as hell won't start now. She is everything I am against.

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    I cannot and will not. I don't want Hillary and her neoliberal proclivities anywhere the White House. I think she would be a disaster for foreign policy and would keep the United States in perpetual war. She will further damage the environment with policies such as fracking and the TPP. She will advance the interests of the upper crust and maybe throw working people an occasional crumb from their table.

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    That's why if Bernie isn't in it I will vote for Jill Stein. But I think Bernie will pull his candidacy into full gear.
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    Vote for her? I can't even see her face without wanting to hurl a lung.

    No, I won't vote for her.

    There are two primary groups that are the enemies of democracy. The neocons and the corporatists. This trash used to only be in the Republican party. Hillary and Bill Clinton are responsible for infiltrating this slop into the Democratic party. Unfortunately, about 30 percent of the Democratic party is either too stupid to see this or they don't mind. The Republican party has low-information voters. Well, so does the Democratic Party. Hillary stole most of the Democratic primaries, but there's a solid 30 percent of our party that is ignorant, anti-intellectual and blind to how corrupt and sick Hillary is. The rest know and are just like her. Fuck them.

    Besides the neocons, we have the corporatists. Politicians who are playing a big game with powerful corporations and selling them access. This access allows the corporations to poison our water and air; sell us pharmaceuticals that kill us; operated banks in ways implode the economy; and extract fuel from the Earth in ways that destroy our planet. Hillary is one of the worst corporatists.

    I never thought I'd see the day when this kind of trash would be in our party. I will never vote for it. EVER.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjo59 View Post
    Ha ha! That's how I feel too. She (and her husband) must be kept out of the White House! Anything terrible that resulted from a Trump presidency could be fixed. Many of the things the Clintons would accomplish could not be reversed (utter destruction of more sovereign nations in the world and "free trade" deals that take power away from national governments).
    That's what I'm thinking too.

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    No I could never vote for her for all the reasons others have already stated here.

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